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Do you want a few wisely chosen BUSTies as board moderators?
Yes [ 40 ] ** [62.50%]
No (could you explain decision?) [ 12 ] ** [18.75%]
Maybe (discuss concerns below) [ 12 ] ** [18.75%]
Would you like these moderators to act across the board or only in "sensitive" threads?
Yes [ 31 ] ** [48.44%]
No [ 13 ] ** [20.31%]
Maybe [ 20 ] ** [31.25%]
What powers would you like moderators to have?
Delete offensive troll posts only [ 22 ] ** [28.21%]
Delete offensive troll posts and troll threads [ 35 ] ** [44.87%]
Delete offensive, trollish threads and delete users [ 15 ] ** [19.23%]
Delete all offensive material (including comments by established users) [ 2 ] ** [2.56%]
All of the above and additional powers (detail below) [ 4 ] ** [5.13%]
Total Votes: 63
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post Nov 7 2007, 06:01 PM
Post #1

The artist now known as I don't give a shit.
Posts: 4,053

Here it is BUSTies and BUSTers, a poll to vote on whether we want moderators to help us with the ongoing troll problem.
I've kept it simple and covered the basics (you are only allowed three poll questions) and we can always have additional polls for who should be moderators -if applicable, depending on poll results- and other grievances later.

Please add any comments, suggestions and constructive comments about having moderators below. Perhaps we should have an open discussion (with turbojenn and quantumspice weighing in, if possible) about the pros and cons of moderators before we vote our gut instinct (although feel free to vote if you're already convinced/have heart set on it).

Who knows whether LoungeLady will even listen to us and act on any decisions we collectively make but there's only one way to find out!

Happy voting.

eta: okay, I've just realised Q2 is a little unclear answer-wise: let's say that yes is you do want across board powers, no is you only want sensitive thread powers and maybe is obviously maybe to them having full board access.

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post Nov 7 2007, 08:56 PM
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Creating demon-radical feminist hybrids since 1974
Posts: 690
From: Savoir Faire is Everywhere!

See, I think the hang-up will be on what is deemed "offensive". Some things are obvious, like the nasty pics. But what about some of the other things that have been called "troll behavior" lately? I think "psychofemme" is rude, obnoxious, and condescending. However, I don't think she's a troll and wouldn't want her posts/threads deleted as such. And I feel that way having read all her posts in context. She's a bitch, and to me that's just not the same thing.

"Looking" poses an even more complicated problem. I remember him (yeah, for some reason I think it's a guy) when he first posted last fall. He was pretty much ignored and only posted a few times then went away. When he showed up again, his posts were pompous and inappropriate to the discussion at hand. And yet, at that point I wouldn't have said the posts were worthy of deletion, even with the rapid revisionist fantasy he was making. To me backtracking, bullshitting and lying are still not being a troll, just someone not worth listening/paying attention to. BUT, when he flipped his lid entirely and re-edited all his posts (and added more) to make it seem like "some kids" jacked his computer or account and were posting craziness all over, I ABSOLUTELY would have deleted all his posts. I would not, however, have wanted his account deleted. He is still making some small effort to be part of the community, and I think that as long as he stays on his meds that is fine. It's not like I'm forced to respect or even care about what he has to say.

And I wouldn't have deleted "Lynda" either. Being rude, crude, and socially inappropriate, even in sensitive topic threads, still doesn't merit deletion to me. Not as long as we have the ignore function.

So I guess what I'm saying is that while I think it is an EXCELLENT idea to have some moderators, I would only want it to happen with a "less is more" attitude. I think some home-grown Bustie mods would have more time and inclination to do a more thorough job of clean-up when clean-up is needed (seriously, you couldn't get ALL the pics LL?!), as long as there are strict limits/guidelines to what can be done.

*edited slightly for grammar

This post has been edited by sixelacat: Nov 7 2007, 09:02 PM

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bunnyb   To Have Moderators Or Not To Have Moderators? That Is The Question.   Nov 7 2007, 06:01 PM
faerietails2   sixel, I agree 100%. i would also agree that look...   Nov 7 2007, 09:15 PM
pepper   you know that number two is an either-or and not a...   Nov 7 2007, 10:15 PM
bunnyb   pepper, I messed up with question 2 but I put that...   Nov 8 2007, 06:13 AM
Mr Pugs   I think the moderators should have the power to de...   Nov 8 2007, 06:28 AM
culturehandy   If moderators are put in place, I don't think ...   Nov 8 2007, 07:19 AM
pollystyrene   If moderators are put in place, I don't think ...   Nov 8 2007, 08:29 AM
LoveMyPugs   Could we all perhaps vote on which two or three bu...   Nov 8 2007, 08:13 AM
bunnyb   Could we all perhaps vote on which two or three bu...   Nov 8 2007, 08:21 AM
mornington   would it be possible to throw some names around - ...   Nov 8 2007, 09:44 AM
pollystyrene   I just noticed your "headline" there, mo...   Nov 8 2007, 11:21 AM
anarch   Maybe LL would be more receptive if we proposed so...   Nov 8 2007, 12:55 PM
anarch   I mean, giving mods basic powers would take care o...   Nov 8 2007, 12:59 PM
kittenb   Maybe LL would be more receptive if we proposed so...   Nov 8 2007, 01:29 PM
turbojenn   I think I'm in a small minority here, in stick...   Nov 8 2007, 05:11 PM
roseviolet   Actually, Kitten, I have heard some long-time memb...   Nov 8 2007, 05:17 PM
girltrouble   i've been here (off and on) close to forever, ...   Nov 8 2007, 07:35 PM
mouse   i'm with turbo--i think the mods shouldn't...   Nov 8 2007, 09:13 PM
dj-bizmonkey   i have been a bit hesistant to get involved in thi...   Nov 8 2007, 09:20 PM
pepper   ~tiny issue~ one thing about superfluous new threa...   Nov 8 2007, 10:29 PM
mouse   here's an idea. kind of strange but it just po...   Nov 8 2007, 10:55 PM
sixelacat   Interesting, mouse, but I think I'd still vote...   Nov 9 2007, 02:20 AM
mornington   Really all I'd like to see is a janitor, someo...   Nov 9 2007, 02:54 AM
LoveMyPugs   I think I'm in a small minority here, in stick...   Nov 9 2007, 06:18 AM
missjoy   I haven't really read through the responses so...   Nov 9 2007, 07:01 AM
culturehandy   I stick by saying we only need someone to delete t...   Nov 9 2007, 07:05 AM
pepper   i like the janitor for aisle clean up idea. if tha...   Nov 9 2007, 09:02 AM
bunnyb   well, there goes that idea (cf News and Announceme...   Nov 9 2007, 12:16 PM
faerietails2   I saw that. Thing is, I've never seen any rea...   Nov 9 2007, 01:20 PM
teragoldf   Do you beggary a set of Bearpaw Degree Footwear? I...   Dec 29 2012, 11:27 PM
girltrouble   yeah, i'm not buying it either, i'm not t...   Nov 10 2007, 09:39 AM
MsYuefie   Well it's not like He Who Wears His Ass For A ...   Nov 10 2007, 12:42 PM
sixelacat   Actually, I'm betting that "moderating th...   Nov 10 2007, 05:42 PM
girlygirlgag   I am not trying to be a negative nancy, but here i...   Nov 11 2007, 07:36 AM
sybarite   To be honest, I agree with GGG for the most part. ...   Nov 11 2007, 08:40 AM
stargazer   i think there should be an outside moderator to be...   Nov 11 2007, 04:59 PM
faerietails2   i thinki would just like the site to be more restr...   Nov 11 2007, 05:03 PM
culturehandy   I've been thinking about this and the more we ...   Nov 11 2007, 05:12 PM
MsYuefie   Agreed ch. With the exception of posting PSA's...   Nov 11 2007, 05:15 PM
faerietails2   Agreed (newbie-thread PSAs are a definite need, th...   Nov 11 2007, 05:23 PM
girlygirlgag   I HAVE FORGOTTEN HOW TO USE THE IGNORE FEATURE...   Nov 12 2007, 06:12 AM
pepper   I HAVE FORGOTTEN HOW TO USE THE IGNORE FEATURE...   Nov 12 2007, 05:55 PM
anoushh   Question 2 doesn't make sense with the choices...   Jan 7 2008, 01:31 PM
CandyMandyDandy   Question 2 doesn't make sense with the choices...   Jul 25 2008, 11:49 AM
FabulousFran   Boards that have no or little moderation are overr...   Jan 25 2008, 01:17 PM
FabulousFran   Boards that have no or little moderation are overr...   Jan 25 2008, 01:18 PM
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megh   This is the best and better topic for all the peop...   Nov 15 2012, 11:23 AM
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