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octobersky
post May 7 2006, 02:39 PM
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Didn't know if anyone had seen this...

http://talkleft.com/new_archives/014759.html
(sorry don't know how to make it purty :-)

If it's possiable I'm even more afraid than I already was. When is this going to end? And why do these people have so much power? It's scary.
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ginger_kitty
post Jul 26 2006, 02:33 PM
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This is some scary stuff:

Interstate Abortion Bill Nears Passage
By LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Taking a teenager across state lines to get an abortion without a parent's knowledge would become a crime punishable by prison under a bill that headed toward Senate passage Tuesday.

Struggling to defend their majority this election year, Republican sponsors said the bill supports what a majority of the public believes: that a parent's right to know takes precedence over a young woman's right to have an abortion.

"No parent wants anyone to take their children across state lines or even across the street without their permission," said Senate Majority Whip Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. "This is a fundamental right, and the Congress is right to uphold it in law."

Bowing to public support for parental notification and the GOP's 55-44-1 majority, Democrats spent the day trying to carve out an exemption for confidants to whom a girl with abusive parents might turn for help. They complained that the measure is the latest in a series of bills designed chiefly to energize the party's base of conservative voters.

"Congress ought to have higher priorities than turning grandparents into criminals," said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass.

The measure would make taking a pregnant teenager over state lines to obtain an abortion a crime punishable by fines and up to a year in prison. The girl and her parents would be protected from prosecution and an exception would be made in cases where the pregnancy endangered the teen's life.

Polls suggest there is widespread public backing for the bill, with almost three-quarters of respondents saying a parent has the right to give consent before a child under 18 has an abortion.

States that do not have parental notification or consent laws are Washington, Oregon, New York, Vermont, Rhode Island and Connecticut. The District of Columbia also does not have such laws.

No one knows how many girls get abortions in this way, or who helps them do it. But Democrats say the policy would be dangerous to pregnant teens who have abusive or neglectful parents by discouraging other people from helping them.

"We're going to sacrifice a lot of girls' lives," said Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y.

Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., countered that opponents "want to strip the overwhelming majority of good parents their rightful role and responsibility because of the misbehavior of a few."

Democrats proposed several amendments during Tuesday's debate, including one sponsored by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., to protect such confidants as grandparents, clergy and others to whom a girl might turn for help.

Another, sponsored by Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., would have encouraged the federal government to provide money for more sex education, but it failed 48-51.

"If we do nothing about teen pregnancy yet pass this punitive bill, then it proves that this (bill) is only a political charade and not a serious effort to combat the problem," Lautenberg said.

Abstinence is the best way to prevent teenage pregnancy, responded Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla.

"How many people really think it's in the best interest of young people to be sexually active outside of marriage? Does anything positive ever come from that?" Coburn asked.

The bills are S. 403 and H.R. 748.

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snafooey   Did anyone hear about that anti-choice blogger who...   Jul 14 2006, 12:30 PM
anarch   my husband decided today he's not suitable to ...   Jul 22 2006, 02:16 PM
pepper   oh, hello yo. i'll just go and have that elect...   Jul 22 2006, 11:33 PM
anarch   hey pepper! *hugs* We talked about it yesterd...   Jul 24 2006, 08:54 AM
vesicapisces   Just wanted to point out that "elective surge...   Jul 24 2006, 09:01 AM
pepper   perhaps my description isn't accurate to You b...   Jul 24 2006, 06:34 PM
msp   i really think i'm qualified to have an opini...   Jul 25 2006, 07:31 AM
sybarite   Thanks for the info msp. Anarch, I can empathise ...   Jul 25 2006, 07:44 AM
pepper   funny to be quoting myself... "there is a ris...   Jul 25 2006, 07:59 AM
msp   i'm certainly a supporter of choice, obviousl...   Jul 25 2006, 08:10 AM
vesicapisces   Pepper, I wasn't trying to tell you not to hav...   Jul 25 2006, 08:29 AM
candycane_girl   I thought this was interesting...I was just at the...   Jul 25 2006, 06:23 PM
erinjane   I don't know exact details, but as far as I kn...   Jul 25 2006, 10:41 PM
chani   In Canada there is no law regarding abortion. It i...   Jul 26 2006, 01:27 PM
erinjane   Thanks Chani, that's what I thought. I get ex...   Jul 26 2006, 02:29 PM
candycane_girl   That's similar to what I posted earlier only I...   Jul 26 2006, 02:39 PM
msp   The bill passed last night, 65-34. And if you can ...   Jul 26 2006, 02:48 PM
ginger_kitty   candycane, Teens were always having sex. It was ...   Jul 26 2006, 03:08 PM
candycane_girl   I completely agree with you ginger_kitty. My grand...   Jul 26 2006, 08:59 PM
thingsarenice   Okay, okay, fine, make it harder to get an abortio...   Jul 27 2006, 07:24 AM
msp   I can understand from these asshats' points o...   Jul 27 2006, 08:04 AM
vesicapisces   I just talked to a man yesterday whose wife is 6 m...   Jul 27 2006, 08:22 AM
pepper   definitely in the hospital as it will be more of a...   Jul 27 2006, 08:34 AM
pollystyrene   The leader of the Lakota tribe who wanted to put a...   Jul 30 2006, 08:55 AM
anoushh   Scary--but unfortunately not surprising--article a...   Jul 31 2006, 09:58 PM
greenbean   Check it out: http://www.nypost.com/entertainment/...   Aug 3 2006, 01:54 PM
erinjane   Here's a link to the video of it: http://oneg...   Aug 3 2006, 03:36 PM
greenbean   Oh fer crying out loud! Good for Walters to j...   Aug 3 2006, 09:29 PM
jsmith   I think that girl must have rabies.   Aug 3 2006, 09:46 PM
lucizoe   Teh stoopid! It burns!   Aug 4 2006, 07:04 AM
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maddy29   sadly, i bet if they could pass a law making it il...   Aug 4 2006, 04:08 PM
katze   I consider myself to be pro-life in a way because ...   Aug 7 2006, 09:17 AM
greenbean   It is a complex issue when you bring 'morality...   Aug 7 2006, 12:26 PM
katze   Greenbean, I'm not sure if you were responding...   Aug 12 2006, 08:43 PM
erinjane   Katze, I'm always interested to hear pro-life ...   Aug 12 2006, 08:57 PM
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treehugger   Here is something interesting I came across: htt...   Aug 19 2006, 06:06 PM
msp   From CNN: [b][url=http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/...   Aug 24 2006, 07:38 AM
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