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pianogirl
post Jan 11 2007, 01:25 PM
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Luteinizing hormone (LH) is a hormone
Follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) is a hormone
Parabasal cells are the smallest epithelial cells seen on a typical vaginal smear.
matriculation index? I HAVE NO CLUE!



Neverending I am so happy that you dont have this problem anymore.

What do you do for maintanence>??

thanks smile.gif smile.gif
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post Jan 11 2007, 01:15 PM
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Luteinizing hormone (LH) is a hormone
Follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) is a hormone
Parabasal cells are the smallest epithelial cells seen on a typical vaginal smear.
matriculation index? I HAVE NO CLUE!
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Eralc Alegna
post Jan 11 2007, 12:05 PM
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Thanks for the advice shendy. I found another message board about some "acne cure" and ordered some 10% glycolic acid cream to use as it suggested. I'll give tea tree oil another shot or the hydrocortizone cream if that doesn't help.
I think I'm going to order the estroil too. I found Chaste tree (aka agnus castus) in liquid form yesterday but didn't buy. We know the estroil for sure worked in at least one case...
Hmmm, your post is interesting, but I at least am not educated enough to be familliar with what you're referring to. Whats LH and FSH? What is a matriculation index? Parabasal cells?
Really? my vagina might not be "mature" enough yet? It's just going through that difficult adolecent stage then I suppose?
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post Jan 10 2007, 09:51 PM
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THANK GOD!!!
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neverending
post Jan 10 2007, 09:45 PM
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Eralc Alegna: I don't know if it helped any because I was still using it when I had my miscarriage.(I did'nt know I was pregnant)
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post Jan 10 2007, 09:37 PM
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Good night all,

Like some persons here I have had vaginal discharge with no smell. I visited a reproductive endocrinologist last year and had a series of hormonal tests done. My results were pretty good with my LH and my FSH being a little lower than normal. Also, an ertemely high prolactin level, this is the hormone that influences the production breast milk in individuals.

However, what I had done that was never done before was a matriculation index, which resulted in abnormal results of 90-10-10. She explained to me that my vaginal had only ten percent mature cells, ten percent intermediate cells and 90 percent parabasal cells. GO figure.

Anyhow, I went through all of that to say that I am definitely getting on the band wagon for the local estrogen since that is what is supposed to increase the mature cells in the vagina.

Just thought I would share my two cents worth, since I finally got some light shed tonight.

Thank you guys so much!!!!

P.S. I would definitely get a matriculation index done and check out the results. I think this can be done by a regular gynecologist, to cut down the cost. Thanks again!
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post Jan 10 2007, 05:25 PM
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Eralc - I had the same problem you do with the acne (really awful red bumps that you want to pop but can't b/c they are so deep in the skin and are extremely painful / they also seem to develop in spots where I did not typically have acne when I was a teenager). Until the estriol kicks may I make the following suggestion to wash it 2x a day and apply maximum strength OTC hydrocortison cream 4 or 5 times a day. I used to put all types of acne products on it and moisturizers and it would be a nightmare but I find that just using the hydrocortison cream and leaving it alone caused it to go away faster and look less terrible during the process. Hope that helps.
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Eralc Alegna
post Jan 10 2007, 02:24 PM
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Are vitex and agnus castus the same thing?
Did you have any success with it?
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post Jan 10 2007, 11:51 AM
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I got it from a health food store and it was'nt expensive at all.
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post Jan 10 2007, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(neverending @ Jan 10 2007, 10:58 AM) *

It took about 3 months but I saw results after the first. Oh, and I also used the Vitex/Agnus Castus first. Be careful because you don't want to end up pregnant like I did.That stuff makes you fertile!



Hi Ladies


Can you tell me where did you get the vitex?


I will keep you ladies posted about my progress..

THanks

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post Jan 10 2007, 09:41 AM
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It took about 3 months but I saw results after the first. Oh, and I also used the Vitex/Agnus Castus first. Be careful because you don't want to end up pregnant like I did.That stuff makes you fertile!
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Eralc Alegna
post Jan 9 2007, 05:22 PM
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I'll probably end up getting the estroil anyway... pianogirl make sure you keep us updated on your situation after you start using it.

Neverending, how long before the BV improved/went away with the estroil?

If I don't get the estroil I'm going to pick up Agnus Castus. I read about it in a book that said it was good for hormonal acne. It's supposed to ballance the hormones so it might take care of the bv too. (i feel weird calling it BV now that i don't think its an infection anymore. But what the hell else should i call it?).
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post Jan 9 2007, 11:54 AM
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Pianogirl: I'll see if I can find the instructions.Did you buy it from a different site? Oh, and yes I had sex while using the Estroil but only after it had been dissolved completely.Give it a couple of hours before attempting to have sex. It's the plant kind of estroil so I thought it would'nt hurt the hubby. If your using the prescribed kind of Estroil then I would'nt advise sex while using it.
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post Jan 9 2007, 08:48 AM
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QUOTE(neverending @ Jan 8 2007, 09:54 PM) *

pianogirl:I don't do HP. I just used the Estroil suppositories. When you get the package it will tell you exactly what to do.

Eralc Alegna:"It's sad that women are lead to believe that BC is harmless, that everything will "go back to normal" hormonaly after you stop using it. It's all bullshit. I hate conventional medicine and doctors. It's not a public service, it's business for profit and personal gain."
TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!

"I'm about to lock myself in a closet and cry continously until I can see an endocronologist(sp?). Then get my treatment and lock myself back up until I can emerge a whole fucking woman again"
OH GIRL, YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.



Thanks I did receive the Estroil....I didnt see any instructions but I am definatly hoping it helps me too.. sad.gif

I wanted to ask and I hope I am not getting too personal but have you had sex while on Estroil?


Thanks

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I totally agree. She (or He) is so condescending. And if she feels that we are so closed minded and all we do is "whine" then why the hell does she even bother to come in here and ramble? She obviously does not get enough attention at home and the Bust Lounge is her audience sad.gif



LOL good point..
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post Jan 9 2007, 07:52 AM
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Geez...some very negative energy in here. Chacha, honestly, can you just not post in here anymore? It will be best for everyone.



I totally agree. She (or He) is so condescending. And if she feels that we are so closed minded and all we do is "whine" then why the hell does she even bother to come in here and ramble? She obviously does not get enough attention at home and the Bust Lounge is her audience sad.gif
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post Jan 9 2007, 01:31 AM
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Kitty, That sounds good. I think I'll try that....
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post Jan 8 2007, 10:19 PM
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Geez...some very negative energy in here. Chacha, honestly, can you just not post in here anymore? It will be best for everyone.
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post Jan 8 2007, 08:37 PM
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pianogirl:I don't do HP. I just used the Estroil suppositories. When you get the package it will tell you exactly what to do.

Eralc Alegna:"It's sad that women are lead to believe that BC is harmless, that everything will "go back to normal" hormonaly after you stop using it. It's all bullshit. I hate conventional medicine and doctors. It's not a public service, it's business for profit and personal gain."
TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!

"I'm about to lock myself in a closet and cry continously until I can see an endocronologist(sp?). Then get my treatment and lock myself back up until I can emerge a whole fucking woman again"
OH GIRL, YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
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post Jan 8 2007, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE(Eralc Alegna @ Jan 8 2007, 04:05 PM) *

Neverending (and everyone really):

I wish I had never gone on the pill or depo too. That's why i'm afraid to do anything hormonal to solve this. I don't want to inadvertently make it worse.
It's sad that women are lead to believe that BC is harmless, that everything will "go back to normal" hormonaly after you stop using it. It's all bullshit. I hate conventional medicine and doctors. It's not a public service, it's business for profit and personal gain.

The acne seems to get worse a bit after I start my period actually. I guess it takes a while to catch up. The ones I have from before are almost healed and then, BAM! a whole new crop to try to keep from exploding. Not only am I bumpy, red, and tender but now I'm dry and flakey because of continued use of topical shit.

Maybe I'll just go for the estroil. I'm losing it too. In fact I've lost it. Between the BV and lack of self-confidence (not to mention healthy sexual relationship) it causes coupled with the sheer humiliation of the acne PLUS a pre-disposition to depression anyway... I'm about to lock myself in a closet and cry continously until I can see an endocronologist(sp?). Then get my treatment and lock myself back up until I can emerge a whole fucking woman again!


Totally agree with you...mine started after BC pills and this has been a nightmare...sex drive is in the toilet and its frustrating...I ordered the Estroil and plan on using it too it cant be worse than what we are already going through..I am kind of scared to have a baby someday because I fear I will have complications or even I wil sad.gif this sucks..
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post Jan 8 2007, 02:48 PM
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Neverending (and everyone really):

I wish I had never gone on the pill or depo too. That's why i'm afraid to do anything hormonal to solve this. I don't want to inadvertently make it worse.
It's sad that women are lead to believe that BC is harmless, that everything will "go back to normal" hormonaly after you stop using it. It's all bullshit. I hate conventional medicine and doctors. It's not a public service, it's business for profit and personal gain.

The acne seems to get worse a bit after I start my period actually. I guess it takes a while to catch up. The ones I have from before are almost healed and then, BAM! a whole new crop to try to keep from exploding. Not only am I bumpy, red, and tender but now I'm dry and flakey because of continued use of topical shit.

Maybe I'll just go for the estroil. I'm losing it too. In fact I've lost it. Between the BV and lack of self-confidence (not to mention healthy sexual relationship) it causes coupled with the sheer humiliation of the acne PLUS a pre-disposition to depression anyway... I'm about to lock myself in a closet and cry continously until I can see an endocronologist(sp?). Then get my treatment and lock myself back up until I can emerge a whole fucking woman again!
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