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post Apr 16 2009, 02:36 PM
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I hate when people act so cheap and obvious like that. Even if I was "well endowed" with a C-cup or better I wouldn't do anything like that.

And just as cheap and obvious are the men who stare and buy into that cheapness. Lord, i used to see that all the time in the modeling world.

There was a girl who used to frequent the gym where I used to work. She had the boob job and would wear the thin white men's "wifebeater"-type tank tops. With NOTHING on underneath. Sad thing was, the boob job must have messed up her nips b/c one pointed North and the other, East. All the guys stared. Most of them must have thought it was hot, but maybe some of them just stared b/c it had that "car crash" effect--like, you know it's horrific but you're drawn to look anyway.


Glad you liked the Susan Boyle posts. Just goes to show, "ugly" people can be beautiful, and "beautiful" people ugly, given the chance to show their true selves. And I have to laughingly observe myself, I admit--when I awoke this morning to my radio alarm, they were playing a bit of her song. I was picturing the singer as young and pretty--like all the others they go nuts over on those shows. Then I saw someone at work watching her video and realized it was the same woman, and had to watch for myself. There I was, crying in my cubicle. wink.gif
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post Apr 16 2009, 01:02 PM
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Warning: rant. Sorry for being off topic.. but I will argue that this is relevant because it all goes back to the same shallowness that makes girls think they need boob jobs to look beautiful:

Wow. I hope that Simon one day feels like a great jackass for all the fake "talent" he had promoted over the last few years. American idol and all those shows are such a load of crap, the modern realization of everyone's 15 minutes of fame... and it usually stomps all over the truly talented people out there. I'm happy that just once a woman like her got to stand on stage and be applauded for her amazing talent, and show Simon & crew for the shallow, prejudiced, corporate shills that they are.

This stuff makes me so mad. It's so sad that our society has to judge so strongly on appearances. And it's all being sold to us by people who will make money from our insecurities. People want to look and feel as beautiful and successful as the people on these TV shows. They have to go out and buy the same cars, clothes, and bodies, even if it means going into debt to do it, instead of relying on their own natural abilities and beauty to get them through in the world. Meanwhile, I just heard on the news today that the number of personal bankruptcies in Alberta has gone up almost 75% since this time last year...
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post Apr 16 2009, 12:42 PM
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There was a girl with c-cups who used to show up at one of my classes like that and go up to talk to the professor every day before class with her nipples all out there, in front of 30 people... it was kinda creepy, and obvious that she was just trying to get better grades somehow.


I hate when people act so cheap and obvious like that. Even if I was "well endowed" with a C-cup or better I wouldn't do anything like that.
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post Apr 16 2009, 12:41 PM
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I just found this, too--very interesting comments about ugly women vs. ugly men. How true, how true.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/20...ent-susan-boyle
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Aithinne
post Apr 16 2009, 12:36 PM
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I know! I saw her and she was amazing! Before she started singing, she did that little dance, and I was like, oh no... But then she started singing and I was like, holy cow!
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post Apr 16 2009, 12:34 PM
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Okay, maybe this is a bit of a stretch, but have you guys seen the performance by Susan Boyle on Britain's Got Talent? I mean, we talk so much here about first impressions and what it means when people treat you a certain way based on their impressions of big breasts/small breasts/body type/big butt, etc.

Talk about first impressions being wrong. This woman has the voice of an angel. Here's a clip from the show if you haven't seen it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/apr/1...ains-got-talent
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post Apr 16 2009, 09:50 AM
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I don't, but mainly because I prefer to have the little lift in volume that lined bras give, not because of the nipple problem. My shirts fit better with a bra on just because of the extra half inch lined/padded bras provide. I do tend to feel self-conscious when I go out without one, but more because I can feel my boobs moving around a lot more and I notice that they are there, and imagine that other people must as well. I know that my bf loves that I don't wear a bra around the house. I love that feeling right when I get home and throw off the bra, and my boobies breathe a sigh of relief. So freeing.

Remember back in the day when it used to be a feminist statement not to wear a bra? Now its slutty. So weird. I say do whatever makes you happy. Though I still would never wear white shirt with no bra. There was a girl with c-cups who used to show up at one of my classes like that and go up to talk to the professor every day before class with her nipples all out there, in front of 30 people... it was kinda creepy, and obvious that she was just trying to get better grades somehow.
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post Apr 15 2009, 11:57 PM
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I actually am braless a lot. Pretty much the minute I get home, it's adios to the stupid bra. And I don't sleep in anything but my underwear, so I'm probably braless for most of the hours in a day. But I've never gone out and purposely wore no bra. Sometimes I have run errands without a bra, but I usually have some type of sweater to prevent the nips from showing. So I'm pretty comfortable with being braless. And actually, when I was in college, I sometimes went to class without a bra on. I've just never NOT had a bra on when I was looking for a guy. I just don't know if it would change how I would feel, or if it would change a guy's perception of me. If I do go out braless, I will definitely wear a dark shirt so it's not as noticable. I just haven't heard on this forum any stories of us smallies going out on the town without a bra. Was curious to know how it turned out for them...
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post Apr 15 2009, 10:25 PM
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Aithinne, Consider this: Go to a class, or a seminar, or a political meeting, or a dance class, or a running club, or a house party...pursue an interest of yours instead of going to a bar. Wear something that makes you feel great, something that when you look in the mirror pleases you. Express yourself in your clothes. Don't wear something uncomfortable. Be nice to everyone - men and women. That is sure to make you "stand out"! Be open and let people see who you are. Find out who they are. Everyone has their story. Don't hesitate to flirt playfully. Show your sense of humor. If there are kids or pets there, pay them special attention.

I don't think you'll stay single for long with this approach.

P.S. I don't think it really matters whether you wear a bra or not or what kind if so. What matters is that you feel good in what you wear. Some women feel more comfortable showing their bodies than others. If you feel comfortable going braless, go for it!

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post Apr 15 2009, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(Aithinne @ Apr 15 2009, 03:49 PM) *
I'm just thinking of different ways I can stand out. I don't dress skanky when I go out, like many women my age do, because I don't feel comfortable doing that. but maybe going sans-bra would have a similar effect?


Unfortunately, the best way to get attention at the bar these days seems to be to look exactly like every other little hoochie in the bar. But it all depends on what kind of attention you want. If you aren't comfortable dressing skanky, do you really think you will be any more comfortable with your nipples showing? I almost feel that wearing a white shirt like that, no matter that your size, might get you more negative attention than anything, even at a bar full of horny guys. At least, it would at the conservative places I've lived.

I know I wouldn't be able to do it! I go braless often, but usually when wearing a casual t-shirt at home, or wearing those tank tops with an extra nipple covering layer. My strategy when going out is generally to wear a push up bra that hikes my poor little boobies up to high heaven (or at least one that fakes a B-cup). I agree with Allsion, there are many different approaches to looking sexy and being too obvious (white shirt) usually isn't the best approach. Having a no bra and a dark shirt would show a little something without being too obvious I think.
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post Apr 15 2009, 05:34 PM
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Ok, so I am so tired of being single that I'm ready to snap. I'm kind of a homebody, but I've been really wanting to go out recently and meet people. My best friend is even more of a homebody, and it's hard to get her to go anywhere. So, I think I'm going to have to go out by myself, though I don't know if it's a good idea or how to do it since I'm kind of shy about meeting people.

But, I think when I do go out, I've been thinking about going braless. What do you think? Should I? I'm just thinking of different ways I can stand out. I don't dress skanky when I go out, like many women my age do, because I don't feel comfortable doing that. but maybe going sans-bra would have a similar effect? Don't know what shirt I'd wear, though, that would look best without one. I do have a white v-neck tank that looks great on me without a bra, but since it's white and pretty thin, you can see pretty much everything.


I go braless sometimes when going out, but I never risk wearing white or lighter colors for obvious reasons. I am more likely to go braless in a black or any other dark color top. I don't worry about "control" up there since I am only a b-cup and fairly firm. I think dressing sexy in a subtle manner may get you the most desired attention. Anything less can lead to too much ummm "unwanted attention" lol.
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Ok, so I am so tired of being single that I'm ready to snap. I'm kind of a homebody, but I've been really wanting to go out recently and meet people. My best friend is even more of a homebody, and it's hard to get her to go anywhere. So, I think I'm going to have to go out by myself, though I don't know if it's a good idea or how to do it since I'm kind of shy about meeting people.

But, I think when I do go out, I've been thinking about going braless. What do you think? Should I? I'm just thinking of different ways I can stand out. I don't dress skanky when I go out, like many women my age do, because I don't feel comfortable doing that. but maybe going sans-bra would have a similar effect? Don't know what shirt I'd wear, though, that would look best without one. I do have a white v-neck tank that looks great on me without a bra, but since it's white and pretty thin, you can see pretty much everything.
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post Apr 13 2009, 02:01 PM
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OK, so on the porn thing, my bf and I watched a 1979 softcore flick over the weekend, and we both loved it! Alcohol might have had something to do with that, so I'd love to get some of you to watch it and hear your opinions. It's called "Felicity" and it's about a young woman (in boarding school so the implication is that she's an older teen but it's definitely not of the "barely legal" porn variety) coming of age and exploring her sexuality, both at school and on a trip to Hong Kong. Aside from the cheesy '70s music (which made us laugh), it was amazingly good quality - it had a complex plot compared to most porn (so those of you who like story and context and not just body part shots should appreciate that), likeable characters, humor, and the sex scenes really worked for both of us. It was surprisingly hot! And - get this - NO implants whatsoever! No "super-sized" boobs at all! The main character is quite small-breasted and the camera just loves her little titties!

All the things we in this forum criticize about porn seem to be absent from this movie.

My only complaint was the lack of male nudity (one brief scene was it). And the final "romance" was a bit silly, I thought. But all in all...two thumbs up.

I urge you all to check it out! Watch it with your boyfriends! Let me know what you think!
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post Apr 13 2009, 11:25 AM
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Ha ha Twinkieman! I love it. Now that I think about it, he was generally critical of girls' appearance all the time, not just about boobs (he just happened to fixate on that with me). Unfortunately, I didn't send him packing for a while, it was my first big romantice relationship and I didn't know any better. Now, that guy wouldn't have lasted past a first date without a slap in the face!

Oddly enough, I was just discussing all the difficulties with porn with my bf yesterday. Not to get too off topic.. but we came to the conclusion that by the time you've found a cast of people willing to have sex in front of a camera for hours at a time, you aren't necessarily going to have a cast of people who are actually very sexy, or very good at sex. His major complaint is about the implants - if you want to see girls who don't have implants, you pretty much have to go for the "barely legal" stuff because its the only porn that seeks out girls with small boobs. I don't find that category of porn to be any creepier than the others, and while I wish there was good stuff out there, pretty much all porn skeeves me out, between the bored look on people's faces and the intense fixation on anal sex and inordinate amount of time spent on close-up shots of crotches and bums.

But I digress. I still strongly believe that for most guys, what they want to see is perky, bouncy, nicely shaped boobs, of any size, and as long as they get to see them naked, they are happy. Big boobs get all the attention because they are just easier to see, especially when girls are otherwise fully clothed.
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QUOTE(strongirl @ Apr 10 2009, 10:39 PM) *
My bf also complains of having a hard time finding the body-type he prefers in porn. He likes a natural look (minimal makeup, natural hair), athletic/muscular, small breasts. Sort of the anti-Playboy look. He'd probably be better off watching the Olympics if they could just do it naked like the original ones in ancient Greece! smile.gif

I knew men could appreciate all different kinds of bodies, but I'm flattered to know there are actually men who PREFER what happens to be my body type over the Playboy "ideal." Thank you, God(dess), there is hope! laugh.gif
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My bf also complains of having a hard time finding the body-type he prefers in porn. He likes a natural look (minimal makeup, natural hair), athletic/muscular, small breasts. Sort of the anti-Playboy look. He'd probably be better off watching the Olympics if they could just do it naked like the original ones in ancient Greece! smile.gif
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post Apr 10 2009, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(crinoline @ Apr 9 2009, 08:05 PM) *
yeah, a few years ago I really got onto my boy because almost all of his porn was "teen/barely legal" stuff, which icks me out in a big way. Then he pointed out, with examples, that in the porn industry those terms are usually just code for petite/ small breasts, the body type that he's most attracted to and that I am. I sort of calmed down after I saw how old the actresses usually are (not teens)

Interesting, "code for petite/small breasts." Yes, I guess that is true a lot of the time! But also yes, serious "ick" if it's not really the breast size or body type they're into, but rather the thought of taking advantage of an underage girl. ...Brings me back to memories of my first BF, who in retrospect, I realize had some serious psychosexual issues. He was all about the really cheap, gross, low-budget "barely legal"-type porn, and had fantasies of raping an underage girl--fantasies he told me about like it was no big deal. Ewwwww.

QUOTE(crinoline @ Apr 9 2009, 08:05 PM) *
lol Twinkieman! You know I've noticed that most of the guys who care too much about /are way too critical of their girlfriend's appearance are not the most attractive guys themselves, both physically and otherwise.

I second that emotion! I won't name any names, but what I notice most often is the heavy men criticizing "fat" women. Uhhh....yeah, right.
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yeah, a few years ago I really got onto my boy because almost all of his porn was "teen/barely legal" stuff, which icks me out in a big way. Then he pointed out, with examples, that in the porn industry those terms are usually just code for petite/ small breasts, the body type that he's most attracted to and that I am. I sort of calmed down after I saw how old the actresses usually are (not teens)

lol Twinkieman! You know I've noticed that most of the guys who care too much about /are way too critical of their girlfriend's appearance are not the most attractive guys themselves, both physically and otherwise.


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QUOTE(angie_21 @ Apr 9 2009, 02:57 PM) *
Also, "small boob" men are totally out there, because they have their own section in the porn store. Unfortunately, that section gets mixed up with the "barely legal" category since small breasts are apparenlty associated with youth and virginity

Yes, I have noticed this and don't like it. However, if one must find a positive slant to this, I suppose it's better to be likened to a young woman than a lot of other things.

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lol karategirl, maybe men are overcompensating for their own shortcomings by always talking about size with boobs. (I actually did date a guy in high school who complained about the size of my boobs, but as I soon found out, had a twinkie-sized penis. talk about a double standard!)

LOL! laugh.gif I do hope you sent Twinkie Man packing! (Not for his size, but for his hypocrisy.)
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QUOTE(Aithinne @ Apr 7 2009, 04:36 PM) *
What I've noticed is that when guys say they are 'boob men', they usually mean they are 'large boob men'. Does this bother anyone else? Why can't a 'boob man' mean that they like them small too?


But then all men would be boob men! There aren't many who don't like them at all lol. I think that "boob men" are the ones with more of a fetish towards largers sizes, and they somehow get more attention, and guys who appreciate them in all shapes and sizes are everyone else. Also, "small boob" men are totally out there, because they have their own section in the porn store. Unfortunately, that section gets mixed up with the "barely legal" category since small breasts are apparenlty associated with youth and virginity.. (probably because your boobs do grow after pregnancy, must be a very antiquated idea)

lol karategirl, maybe men are overcompensating for their own shortcomings by always talking about size with boobs. (I actually did date a guy in high school who complained about the size of my boobs, but as I soon found out, had a twinkie-sized penis. talk about a double standard!)

And yeah strongirl, my bf does that too, as long as we're not in public lol. I also like to give him a quick grab now and then, and he sure loves that! It is an affection thing, we both like to be very physical in how we show our affection and 9 times out of 10 it has nothing to do with sex.
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