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post Jun 5 2009, 11:52 PM
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So much going on indeed! I share the luv!

I have no time to respond to anything right now! I was bushwacking thru hell and high water for work this week and came home to a huge mess, and there shall be more forests to hike through next week. I really love my life sometimes. Another thing I want to add to strong girls recommendation (which I am planning to go through with sometime within the next 5 years!) is to spend some time learning a really challenging physical task. I mean, something that you think you just plain can't do, something that you almost fail miserably at the first time you try it. Because when you can do it, you will love and appreciate your body from a completely different perspective. Instead of telling yourself to feel strong and ignore how your body looks, you will actually feel strong, and stop caring (even if temporarily) about how you look.

I try to let the whole advertizing and magazine thing slide right past me. It's horrible and degrading, it's all for a single purpose (to sell things) and the only way I can beat it is by completely ignoring it, and not buying the things they advertize. It doesn't mean a thing to me anymore. My boyfriend still gets pissed off about it, mostly when they post photos of half-naked, clearly anorexic women. But if I let it affect me, even in anger, they're winning because they've gotten my attention and changed how I feel about myself. If everyone could be strong and ignore it, then they wouldn't be able to sell things with sexually charged advertising, and it would slowly disappear.

As for men feeling pressured about their looks... Sadly, my reaction is a bit shallow, because I absolutely hate the look they are being pressured into. If a man isn't stinky, hairy, and bearded, he's not much of a man. No label-wearing, make-up wearing, mach 5-shaving, manorexic, greasy bowflex boy-children for me, thank you very much. Honestly. A clean shirt, dark hair, and a lack of a overly-obvious beer belly are the only major qualifications. Few men want a high-maintenance woman, why on god's green earth would I want a high maintenence man?
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post Jun 5 2009, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(karategrrl @ Jun 5 2009, 09:14 AM) *
Lawd, so much great stuff going on here! luuv it!


I am partly to blame because I like to ask questions! But i guess that is what happens when you've only had a "women's body" for so little of your life. wink.gif I am so ready to be finished with puberty. ha ha

And oh yes, I also LOVE the bunny!

Strongirl, yea i guess I can see how it would be beneficial to be in that kind of environment. So many times when we see people they are dressing up their bodies like something it's not, especially with breasts. Pushup bras, anyone? smile.gif This has been tremendously educational. Thanks!
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post Jun 5 2009, 08:14 AM
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Lawd, so much great stuff going on here! luuv it!

Aithinne, glad you like the bunny! Yep, that was one grumpy bunny. I saw it at a really funny site--disapprovingrabbits.com. Okay, I just replaced my avatar with MY bunny! She has her grumpy, disapproving moments too! Love the bunnies!

anarch, I SO hear ya on the Patrick Swayze/Dirty Dancing thing. Um, like EVERY guy movie I watch with my hubby has its share of female eye candy, which hubby always says is "no big deal," but when we watched the Sex and the City movie and there was the scene with the naked guy in the outdoor shower, he was like, "Oh, puh-leeese!" Meanwhile, women are portrayed like that 8 days a week.

strongirl, MARRY your BF. Like, NOW. wink.gif But seriously, he sounds like a man who is aware of what he's feeling and can also articulate it. That's RARE and very special. It's wonderful that you guys can talk so openly.

blondnorweigian, welcome to the club!!!!


Okay, something totally random I had to share. I was in the checkout line at the grocery store the other day. In front of me was a man with 3 young kids. The youngest, a boy, was probably no more than 3 and sitting in the baby seat of the shopping cart. the magazine rack was right by the boy, and smack in the middle of the mags was a beauty (or fitness or whatever) mag with a fairly provocative photo of a blonde kneeling in a bikini--like a pretty typical Victoria's Secret or Sports Illustrated sort of thing. The little boy was riveted to this cover photo, which is totally natural, I'm sure--I mean, all humans, even children, are sexual creatures (tho' children don't yet fully understand sexuality). What struck me was that right in front of me was an example of how the stereotypes of body ideals are literally thrust in front of us, even at very young ages. It's something we've talked about in here, and right there in front of me, there it was.

I wish (though it will never happen) that if we are going to see people's bodies used to sell magazines and stuff, that at least it could be of variety of all different types, ages, genders, and colors of bodies--celebrating human beauty in all its forms--rather than just the skinny, busty blonde bikini models. Nothing against anyone who fits that description, but it's only one body type, and not necessarily an ideal.
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strongirl
post Jun 4 2009, 01:11 PM
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KeraBear, it does happen. It's happened to me many times over the years and it just really isn't a big deal. There's usually no need to say anything, just be pleasant and keep talking or relaxing or whatever it was that you were doing. Occasionally a guy will feel embarrassed and compelled to say something, like "Sorry about that!" or "Pardon my reaction - you're very attractive!". And I'll say "Thanks, no problem. I'll take it as a compliment." And we just move on. I've had lots of sex at those places but always with people I was with. I've never had to "fend off" an inappropriate or unwanted "hit".

As for the adolescent thing, we are talking "clothes optional" not compulsory nudity. So anyone who doesn't feel comfortable being nude can not be nude. Often this is teens, going through that awkward phase. But many teens are fine with it, especially those who have gone to places like this all their lives, like my son and his best friend. The hot springs I go to most often really is a family environment, and around the pool on a given day you'll see all ages, from infants to seniors. I think it's great for teens, who are given so many negative messages about their developing bodies, to see a wide variety of bodies and everyone just being relaxed and fine with it. It's OK to be big, or small, or hairy, or pale, or have stretch marks.

It might sound intense but it really isn't. It's very relaxed and accepting and low pressure.
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KeraBear
post Jun 4 2009, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(strongirl @ Jun 3 2009, 11:07 PM) *
I have recommended before in this thread, and I will say it again: for those of you who have never gone to clothes optional or naturist beaches or hot springs, I strongly suggest you give it a try. What you will see is dramatically different from the airbrushed, surgically enhanced bullshit you are seeing in popular media and negatively comparing yourself to. Real bodies are beautiful, including yours. Yes, it can be sexually exciting. It can also be mind expanding, compassion inducing, and a liberating force from the self-hating hang-ups we all tend to get tripped up on. Try it!

One caveat: I am making a distinction between "naturist" and "clothes optional" environments as opposed to "swinger" or "lifestyle" places. In the former, you will find families with kids, men, women, old, young, thin, fat, disabled, you name it. In the latter, you will find a lot of silicone and sleazy horndog guys who are popping that extra Viagra in hopes of bagging that silicone 34E babe. You do have to do a bit of research to find places that are about body acceptance rather than sexual "gaming". Once you do, though, it is very liberating and life-affirming.


Wow, Strongirl, that sounds pretty intense, and liberating no doubt. Maybe someday... that has to be weird for teens and preteens though, because our bodies are in various stages of puberty (like late bloomers like me who was JUST budding breasts at 13.... awkward) and our hormones are pumping into overdrive. I dunno...

I do have a question though. ANd I am not trying to be funny! What if you are chillin' in there and talking with some dude and all of a sudden he has a hard-on? Do you say, "it happens", have a laugh about it, and then keep talking as if nothing ever happened? Thank him for the "compliment"?
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post Jun 3 2009, 10:39 PM
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blondenorwegian, I don't think I've noticed you posting in here before but your comments were very insightful and articulate.

I had a similar experience a few months ago with my boyfriend, where we were at a social event where there were several women with extremely large, surgically enhanced breasts and we both had a sexual reaction to them and had sex during which we fantasized about them. I got off on it, as did he, but later my self esteem tanked, and I felt like shit and thought "I should either get implants or break up with him so he can be with someone who does". I kept this to myself, however. A few days later we watched a movie in which the male lead was not only hot but also a great, attentive lover. Afterward when we started to have sex, he confessed that he felt totally inadequate after watching that guy, and that the comparison was making him feel insecure and depressed and non-sexual. Spurred onward by his confession, I confessed how the women with implants and his reaction to them made me feel. His apology was so perfectly on target that it made me cry. Not only did he apologize for making me feel bad, but he explained very articulately how he is attracted to a wide variety of body types (as am I) but that mine is the most beautiful he's ever seen, how he's in it for the long run with me and he knows my firm, small tits will be healthy and sexy to him over the long haul, and while a particularly flashy feature like big boobs or beautiful hair or a very slender waist might catch his eye or spark a fantasy, the consistently wonderful, amazing, soul-deep sex that we have is something that he would never ever want to give up, for anything. It was a sincere, thorough, and totally on-target apology. And we followed it by awesome sex, as usual.

While my ego might want to be the only woman he can even see as attractive, I can't offer the same exclusivity in return: I love hot guys and I'm very visual. I love to check out guys' bodies! So given that he and I are wired very similarly, I think I can put my ego aside and my love where it belongs. It belongs with him, with the understanding that we're both gonna look, but that what we have together is real and hot and special and lasting.




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post Jun 3 2009, 10:07 PM
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KeraBear, no, actually it was not difficult for me at all. I'm sort of a natural born nudist and coming from a pretty un-modest family and after many childhood and adolescent "play doctor" and "you show me yours, I'll show you mine" kinds of experiences, I took to clothes optional beaches and hot springs like a duck to water. I hate swimsuits with a passion, to be honest! So does my adolescent son, who I first took to a clothes optional hot springs when he was 4 months old. I recall his shock and surprise when he invited friends over at the age of 5 to swim in our pool, and they went into the bathroom to put on swimsuits!

I have recommended before in this thread, and I will say it again: for those of you who have never gone to clothes optional or naturist beaches or hot springs, I strongly suggest you give it a try. What you will see is dramatically different from the airbrushed, surgically enhanced bullshit you are seeing in popular media and negatively comparing yourself to. Real bodies are beautiful, including yours. Yes, it can be sexually exciting. It can also be mind expanding, compassion inducing, and a liberating force from the self-hating hang-ups we all tend to get tripped up on. Try it!

One caveat: I am making a distinction between "naturist" and "clothes optional" environments as opposed to "swinger" or "lifestyle" places. In the former, you will find families with kids, men, women, old, young, thin, fat, disabled, you name it. In the latter, you will find a lot of silicone and sleazy horndog guys who are popping that extra Viagra in hopes of bagging that silicone 34E babe. You do have to do a bit of research to find places that are about body acceptance rather than sexual "gaming". Once you do, though, it is very liberating and life-affirming.




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post Jun 3 2009, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE(strongirl @ Jun 2 2009, 06:18 PM) *
Side note, I just spent a week on the Mayan Riviera (Playa del Carmen, mostly) and saw only one pair of implants the entire week. Far less than I see on a typical trip to the gym here. And about 10% of the women on the beach were topless, mostly Europeans. With a wide variety of boob shapes and sizes. It was so refreshing! My titties had a nice vacation! And got a fair amount of sun. smile.gif


That sounds like an interesting experience. Honestly, I am not sure if I could work up enough courage to give my tiny friends a "coming out party" to the world. Good for you! Was it difficult for you the first time you tried to do something like this?

QUOTE(Aithinne @ Jun 2 2009, 05:21 PM) *
I know just want you mean when you were flattered, KeraBear. I've had a few of those moments too, where I've noticed guys checking out my chest and I was thinking, "wow, really? They're really worth look at and checking out? SWEET!!!"


Heh... yeah, I wonder though if he was only doing that out of curiosity about whether i had started puberty or not. laugh.gif But yeah, I prefer to think of it as the latter.

QUOTE(Aithinne @ Jun 2 2009, 05:21 PM) *
I still kind of think it's fascinating how the many of the problems women face on both sides of the average boobie are very similar. How there are sterotypes about you because of your size, how you can feel like a freak, experiences with teasing in school, etc. It's crazy how much we can actually relate with our larger sisters.


Yeah, one of my best friends is like the anti-me as far as breasts are concerned. She started getting breasts when she was like 8 and sportin' a D cup in 6th grade. She was the "freak who started too early" and I was the "freak who started too late" and we both shared our fine share of teasing for it. sad.gif I always felt a little more sorry for her than for me though, because other girls were really mean to her early on, spreading rumors and stuff.
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post Jun 2 2009, 09:59 PM
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KeraBear, I'm with you. As a woman with a B cup, I had gotten to a point where I felt okay with my chest size. I was an A through most of high school, and didn't grow until I was 17 or 18. Things do get better after high school, chica!

I felt pretty good until one night my boyfriend (in an inebriated state) blurted out how phenomenal his ex's breasts were. His ex had a D cup, as did the girl before that.

Hanging up the phone and feeling rather inadequate I began talking to my girlfriends about surgery. I started scouring the internet for reviews of breast enhancement creams, phytoestrogens, miracle pills and bizarre contraptions- any that promised another cup size I considered. That one stupid comment reopened a lot of old wounds and dumped salt on them.

I was raised to be a feminist, and participated in women body image groups, all of that- all to discourage girls from feeling exactly the way I did when my boyfriend said that. I should love my body the way it is, and if my boyfriend doesn't like it, he can find a girl with big boobs if he's so attached. (He has since apologized profusely and says he likes my boobs the way they are.)

There is a great BBC documentary (has someone already talked about it here?) called "My Small Breasts and I" which follows three A-or-AA cup women. Some try the surgery and gadgets that I looked at; some find ways of feeling sexy.

And as for the men's rise in body image issue, I'm sorry, I have to agree. The shoe is now on the other foot. I sometimes wish my boyfriend could understand that pressure to look like the magazine cover.
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post Jun 2 2009, 05:18 PM
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As a mother of a teenage son, I have no desire to see men inflicted with the same unhealthy cultural pressures that women experience regarding appearance. I really truly wish we could all move past this and appreciate ourselves and each other in all our wonderful diversity. But in terms of seeing a little "forced empathy"...wishing that guys who have used this power over women to make them feel insecure would get a taste of their own medicine...I know exactly what you mean.

Side note, I just spent a week on the Mayan Riviera (Playa del Carmen, mostly) and saw only one pair of implants the entire week. Far less than I see on a typical trip to the gym here. And about 10% of the women on the beach were topless, mostly Europeans. With a wide variety of boob shapes and sizes. It was so refreshing! My titties had a nice vacation! And got a fair amount of sun. smile.gif


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post Jun 2 2009, 04:21 PM
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I know just want you mean when you were flattered, KeraBear. I've had a few of those moments too, where I've noticed guys checking out my chest and I was thinking, "wow, really? They're really worth look at and checking out? SWEET!!!"

I've kind of wondered about the difference in the number of replies in the two boobie forums too. I've read through all the posts in the large boobie thread, and most of them seem to be about where to find bras in their sizes (which I'm sure can be an extremely frustrating endeavor). Whereas here, we tend to talk more about culture, the emotional problems that go along with how people perceive small breasts, men, etc. Not that our large boobie sisters don't have problems with culture, emotions, and men as well. It just doesn't seem as talked about in their place as it does here. I still kind of think it's fascinating how the many of the problems women face on both sides of the average boobie are very similar. How there are sterotypes about you because of your size, how you can feel like a freak, experiences with teasing in school, etc. It's crazy how much we can actually relate with our larger sisters.

Karategrrl, I LOVE your bunny. So cute, it's almost sickening. Lol.
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post Jun 2 2009, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE(kittenb @ Jun 2 2009, 12:27 AM) *
Maybe I should post this in the "Confessions" thread but I have the same feelings, starship. When I see one of those stories, I always think, "Well, you all made this damn bed. You lie in it for a change!"


Same here. I know it'll contribute to bad things like increasing steroid use and eating disorders among boys and men, and I don't enjoy that thought. At the same time, I also know that nothing, nothing, teaches like experience. Most men who aren't short or fat or losing their hair have no clue what it's like to walk around every day having 99% of magazine covers, tv shows, movies, ads of all sorts, etc announcing that the way you look is completely inadequate. Something wrong with our skin, our hair, our boobs, our tummies, legs, butts, knees, ankles. Nothing escapes criticism.

Patrick Swayze in Dirty Dancing, now, I know two men who liked that movie (very feminist and grounded, these guys, both taken, naturally) , and all the rest hated it, and it's because Swayze made them feel inadequate. More men might start getting a clue if they got a taste of what it's like to live in a world that compares you to airbrushed plastic "perfection" multiple times a day, every bloody day.




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post Jun 2 2009, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(KeraBear @ Jun 2 2009, 04:32 PM) *
Short of lifting up my shirt and kids section bra and flashing the world, of course. rolleyes.gif

I'm right next to ya, grrl, with my kiddie bra too!

QUOTE(KeraBear @ Jun 2 2009, 04:32 PM) *
I noticed a guy sneaking a peek down my blouse the other day. While most girls i guess would be really annoyed at this, I felt flattered. I rarely, if EVER, get attention because of my breasts. Also this wasn't some random creep, it was a guy that I am sorta crushing on. Is this silly?

Not at all. And don't tell us you haven't sneaked a peek at any of his goods. wink.gif
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post Jun 2 2009, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(karategrrl @ Jun 2 2009, 10:33 AM) *
WOW! Love it! And she's great. I don't like that she said she's "flat," b/c even small breasts have some shape to them, but overall I'm loving that she's being portrayed as sexy.


Yeah, i've never liked the term "flat" myself. Probably because people have used that word to describe me since 6th grade. And it almost implies that i have no breasts at all which isn't true of course! They just aren't as ... obvious as the other girls. What's a gal gotta do to get some boobie respect?!? Short of lifting up my shirt and kids section bra and flashing the world, of course. rolleyes.gif

Also a couple other things - I've noticed that this thread has WAAAAAAY more replies than the large breast support group. That's not to say that women with large breasts have it any easier or anything like that, but I found that sorta interesting. Perhaps we really do need more "support"?

I noticed a guy sneaking a peek down my blouse the other day. While most girls i guess would be really annoyed at this, I felt flattered. I rarely, if EVER, get attention because of my breasts. Also this wasn't some random creep, it was a guy that I am sorta crushing on. Is this silly?
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QUOTE(loonydaray @ Jun 1 2009, 08:36 PM) *
flat and proud

be prepared: the following is a celebrity quote about a celeb who is PROUD of being flat and thinks its sexy. and she's on maxim too. what up!


WOW! Love it! And she's great. I don't like that she said she's "flat," b/c even small breasts have some shape to them, but overall I'm loving that she's being portrayed as sexy.

BTW, that looks like a Victoria's Secret swimsuit she's wearing. Also BTW, I notice that when you do see girlie photos of small-breasted women, they are often in that pose--flat on back or leaning back, seated, with an arched lower back. Such photos of large-busted women usually have them standing up. Just an observation.
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I've seen a lot of tv programs/magazine articles lately based on how men are feeling inadequate due to the abundance of adonis-like figures splashed over the media and the toned celebs women drool over. I have no sympathy and am secretly abit glad. am i a bad person:/. channel4 just did a series called 'extreme male beauty' or something which, imo, just showed how men are starting to feel more of the pressures that women have for yonks. secretly enjoyable


Maybe I should post this in the "Confessions" thread but I have the same feelings, starship. When I see one of those stories, I always think, "Well, you all made this damn bed. You lie in it for a change!"


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QUOTE(starship @ Jun 1 2009, 11:07 AM) *
oh and kera i filled out abit all over at around 20 so I'm sure you still have plenty of changing to do. but I agree with angie- they best thing is to aim for loving your body the way it is right now. I spent most of my teens expecting a last minute break out rather than accepting my small boobs and it did me no favours


I have been filling out gradually myself after turning 18 (I'm 23 now). I was a 32A throughout high school but had a small blessing at 18 becoming my now 32B. My biggest change is in my hips and thighs, getting more shape and definition, I am getting kind of a pear-shaped, semi-hourglass figure, its kinda hard to describe. Dare I say that I am getting some booty in my behind!

My point to Kera is that changes will likely come along later when you least expect them.
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flat and proud

be prepared: the following is a celebrity quote about a celeb who is PROUD of being flat and thinks its sexy. and she's on maxim too. what up!
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post Jun 1 2009, 10:12 AM
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Just got back from a week at the beach in Mexico (wonderful!) and was surprised to see our forum is hopping once again!

No time for lengthy post but have to say re. Geoff that Angie_21 said everything I wanted to say - everything! And probably better than I could have said it. Thanks, Angie! smile.gif

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I've seen a lot of tv programs/magazine articles lately based on how men are feeling inadequate due to the abundance of adonis-like figures splashed over the media and the toned celebs women drool over. I have no sympathy and am secretly abit glad. am i a bad person:/. channel4 just did a series called 'extreme male beauty' or something which, imo, just showed how men are starting to feel more of the pressures that women have for yonks. secretly enjoyable

younger relatives have now well and truely out-boobed me. it looks more like I'm the 13 year old and they're 21. eek

i stopped the pill a couple of months ago and havent noticed any difference thus far, which i suppose is a plus. although they couldnt really get much smaller

at least geoff loves me...

oh and kera i filled out abit all over at around 20 so I'm sure you still have plenty of changing to do. but I agree with angie- they best thing is to aim for loving your body the way it is right now. I spent most of my teens expecting a last minute break out rather than accepting my small boobs and it did me no favours

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