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> Bacterial Vaginosis--or--embarrassing bad smell
tosha
post Jan 8 2009, 01:29 PM
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Hello Ladies,
I am new here. After 4 years I decided to start trying to do more research on BV. I have read and read and read until I can read no more!
Glad to have found you.
My BV went undiagnosed for 4 years....had so many drs tell me this was just something I would have to deal with, one even told me "this is part of your beauty."
Ladies, if this was happening to a man, I betchya they would be a lot more concerned about it!!
ok, off my soapbox.
well I finally got diagnosed last august and did the metro pills. wow I felt like a real woman again, for about 3 weeks. then guess who? yep, back again. not so bad though, thought I could deal...up until about 3 weeks ago, when i went on the 1000 calorie diet. (stupid i know-you don't have to tell me) obviously i was not getting the vitamins i needed because the BV got HORRIBLE.
Ladies, I have kept this secret from my husband all these years...and finally told him 3 days ago. poor guy-i should have done that a long time ago. i guess I am one of the lucky ones because the only symptom i have is discharge, and the smell after sex. no everyday fishy odor. since my husband was a virgin when we met (2 weeks after i first realized something was amiss down there), he never questioned the smell after sex. well he has been so understanding about this situation and that is great.
I started my second round of metro pills 2 days ago, i am also taking 2 fem-D a day along wih the metro. i really hope this helps. i am thinking about also getting the rephresh to use after sex.

Sweaty-love your blog, left you some comments.

Ladies, my heart goes out to you..it makes me so sad what some of you are having to deal with with the odor. the comments people have made to you, it is not right, I am so sorry. My cousin had the odor for about a year with her bv, and she said she was absolutely miserable and cried daily. couldn't get help from drs either. she said she finally found something that helped her. i will find out what it was and post it.

Nice to "meet" you all. I'm Tosha, 26, married to my soul mate, and have a 7 year old boy who loves thumb wrestling and legos, and a 15 month old girl who is a spoiled little queen. currently studying for my masters degree and staying home wih the kids. live in mobile, al.....would love to move back out west to arizona one day!
So glad to know I am not alone in BV hell and that this is not "just part of my beauty" lmao
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lori
post Jan 7 2009, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(neptune @ Jan 7 2009, 02:02 AM) *
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Have you tried Rephresh? Does it work?

It doesn't work.

It doesn't hurt, and if you need a pH-balanced lubricant, it's fine. But it's pretty expensive, and it doesn't really do anything.


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Sweaty in Social Studies
post Jan 7 2009, 08:43 AM
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I haven't written in SUCH a long time, I was researching and came across Balance Activ, and was coming to the only reliable source for BV that I know of (BUST) to inquire and the first thing I see is Neptune asking a question about it...

WOW!

We can't get it in the US though sad.gif

I really think my issue is hormones and PH balance...Can you guys please start posting information and sources on how to get these two things in order?

I just ordered more FemD as someone went in my fridge and threw my last ones away.

I was also reading that antibiotics aren't necessarily necessary to rid the body of BV, yeast, or trich...Can someone please elaborate.

I always know when my vaginal condition is worsening because I get CHRONIC, CHRONIC unshakable fatigue.

Someone please chime in about hormones and PH balance.

Thanks!

Ps. This site: http://womenshealth.com/shop/catalog/produ...roducts_id/2179 has the PH testing kit for really cheap. I ordered 2...To test before and after, I also ordered the yeast suppositories.


If you suspect your hormones are off balance, you should schedule an appointment with an Endocrinologist and get properly evaluated so you know for sure that this is a hormonal problem and not something else. As far as balancing vaginal PH, what I know for sure is the vagina has to maintain it's acidity. Various probiotics help a lot because they contain the live cultures that a normal healthy vagina would typically have. A few people claim probiotics don't help at all and swear by other remedies that have helped. Other than probiotics, there are certain herbs that you can experiment with. Afterall it doesn't hurt to try something new.

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neptune
post Jan 7 2009, 05:02 AM
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QUOTE(JoanClayton @ Jan 6 2009, 02:25 AM) *
I haven't written in SUCH a long time, I was researching and came across Balance Activ, and was coming to the only reliable source for BV that I know of (BUST) to inquire and the first thing I see is Neptune asking a question about it...

WOW!


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Have you tried Rephresh? Does it work? I haven't tried it, but I'm not sure that Balance Activ would be any more effective. BA reduces my discharge for a couple of days, but I can't pass comment on how well it helps odour because my odour isn't particularly strong at the moment, and is more rotton or oniony than fishy atm.

I had a look online and it seems that Rephresh contains Purified Water USP, Glycerin, Polycarbophil, Carbopol 974P, Ethylparaben Sodium, Methylparaben Sodium, Propylparaben Sodium, Sodium Hydroxide.
Balance Active contains Lactic acid, glycogen, propylene glycol, methylhydroxypropyl cellulose, sodium lactate, water, pH3.8

The ingredients may be different, but I suspect the results are the same.

Anyone out there tried both?
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JoanClayton
post Jan 5 2009, 09:25 PM
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I haven't written in SUCH a long time, I was researching and came across Balance Activ, and was coming to the only reliable source for BV that I know of (BUST) to inquire and the first thing I see is Neptune asking a question about it...

WOW!

We can't get it in the US though sad.gif

I really think my issue is hormones and PH balance...Can you guys please start posting information and sources on how to get these two things in order?

I just ordered more FemD as someone went in my fridge and threw my last ones away.

I was also reading that antibiotics aren't necessarily necessary to rid the body of BV, yeast, or trich...Can someone please elaborate.

I always know when my vaginal condition is worsening because I get CHRONIC, CHRONIC unshakable fatigue.

Someone please chime in about hormones and PH balance.

Thanks!

Ps. This site: http://womenshealth.com/shop/catalog/produ...roducts_id/2179 has the PH testing kit for really cheap. I ordered 2...To test before and after, I also ordered the yeast suppositories.
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neptune
post Jan 5 2009, 07:29 AM
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Is there a difference between Balance Activ (which contains lactic acid) and Rephresh? I've been using Balance Activ every few days to keep my discharge under control. Obviously it's just a temporary fix. Not having too much of a problem with odour at the moment, but have a heavy green discharge when I don't use the BA.
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Sweaty in Social Studies
post Jan 4 2009, 04:45 PM
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OH YEAH REPHRESH I USE IT ONCE AND THE SAME DAY I SMELL LIKE STRONG FISH I GUESS IT CAN'T BLOCK THE BV ODOR. I WASH UP WITH LIME SOMETIMES WITH TEASPOON OF VINGEAR NOTHING CAN STOP THE SMELL. I TRYING NOT TO LET THIS AFFECT MY LIFE BUT THE SMELL!!! WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?


I understand where your coming from. Vaginal odor can be very annoying and stressful. I can see why you would use vinegar and lime juice to self treat. Lime and vinegar is very acidic. Lime is about 2.3 on the ph scale and vinegar is about 2.9 (article), a normal healthy vagina has a PH that ranges from 3.8 to 4.5 (article). And if the vaginal acidity goes down it can make room for infections. Although many people use vinegar/lime douches regularly or use it to get rid of an infection, there really is no proof that using either will actually cure anything. Douching clears out the vaginal coating which is composed of bacteria both good and bad. If most of the good bacteria is cleared out then the bad bacetria takes over and causes infection. That's what most people don't realize when they douche. The goal with maintaining a healthy vagina is to keep the vaginal acidity up and have more good bacteria than bad bacteria. Depending on the bacteria that takes over, it can cause an odor.

(Click Here) It's a great article on Bacterial Vaginosis and it explains the cause and reason for the vaginal odor in the 1st paragraph.

What medications have you taken to treat your BV? I'll try to give you advice or help you in what-ever way I can.
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horror_movie
post Jan 4 2009, 03:43 AM
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OH YEAH REPHRESH I USE IT ONCE AND THE SAME DAY I SMELL LIKE STRONG FISH I GUESS IT CAN'T BLOCK THE BV ODOR. I WASH UP WITH LIME SOMETIMES WITH TEASPOON OF VINGEAR NOTHING CAN STOP THE SMELL. I TRYING NOT TO LET THIS AFFECT MY LIFE BUT THE SMELL!!! WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?
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post Jan 4 2009, 03:33 AM
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QUOTE(Sweaty in Social Studies @ Dec 28 2008, 12:37 AM) *
There are plenty of foods that are high in fiber (link). Foods that contain fiber would be fruits, whole grains, and vegetables. Or you can take a fiber supplement like Benefiber, although I highly recommend that you eat foods containing fiber which your body will absorb properly. VitaminWater is actually pretty bad (label). I was just reading the table of contents and it contains chrystalline-fructose, which is just as bad as high fructose corn syrup, and a bunch of other foreign additives that I'm not familiar with. I myself try to avoid sport drinks, sodas and juices. They're always so high in sugar and other fluff. You should lean more towards water. It's crisp, light, refreshing and doesn't leave a bad after taste in your mouth. And it's really good for your overall health. But I have to ask ... why are you trying to "detoxify" your body?


Thanks for the advice!!! i been so occupied with work that i didn't take the time to take care of my situation. This time im gOING HANDLE IT!!
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Sweaty in Social Studies
post Dec 28 2008, 12:37 AM
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QUOTE(horror_movie @ Dec 27 2008, 01:57 PM) *
IS THERE ANY PILLS THAT HAVE FIBER IN THEM THAT I HAVE TO TAKE? I HAVE TO EAT WHOLE WHEAT BREAD? I DON'T DRINK ANY JUICE OR SODA ONLY VITAMIN WATER IS THAT OK?


There are plenty of foods that are high in fiber (link). Foods that contain fiber would be fruits, whole grains, and vegetables. Or you can take a fiber supplement like Benefiber, although I highly recommend that you eat foods containing fiber which your body will absorb properly. VitaminWater is actually pretty bad (label). I was just reading the table of contents and it contains chrystalline-fructose, which is just as bad as high fructose corn syrup, and a bunch of other foreign additives that I'm not familiar with. I myself try to avoid sport drinks, sodas and juices. They're always so high in sugar and other fluff. You should lean more towards water. It's crisp, light, refreshing and doesn't leave a bad after taste in your mouth. And it's really good for your overall health. But I have to ask ... why are you trying to "detoxify" your body?
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neptune
post Dec 27 2008, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(oedipa maas @ Dec 26 2008, 07:32 AM) *
I'm wondering if anyone has had experience with vaginal bleeding after intercourse, it's been two or three days since and when i wake up in the morning i have quite a bit of blood in my discharge? I have read the both bv and yeast infections can cause there to be bleeding after intercourse. all of my tests back in October - apart from BV - were otherwise clear, my pap was clear, so i'm thinking it has to be the bv?


I had this for a while, when my bv was at its worst. Any penetration, even a finger, would cause bleeding. It seemed to be from the walls of the vagina as opposed to (or as well as) from deeper inside.
I asked my doctor about it and she just dismissed it and said it was due to the pill. She didn't even examine me blink.gif Anyway, I'm sure she was wrong because as soon as the bv cleared that time, the bleeding stopped immediately, and I'm still on the same pill. So yes, I think bv can definitely cause bleeding after penetration.
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post Dec 27 2008, 01:57 PM
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IS THERE ANY PILLS THAT HAVE FIBER IN THEM THAT I HAVE TO TAKE? I HAVE TO EAT WHOLE WHEAT BREAD? I DON'T DRINK ANY JUICE OR SODA ONLY VITAMIN WATER IS THAT OK?
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Sweaty in Social Studies
post Dec 27 2008, 09:55 AM
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ahhhhhhhhhhhhh i just had to scream for a lil second. I still have BV i feel like it never gonna go away. Before i couldn't smell it but now i DO. Sometime it smell like must other time it strong fishy smell. At work A TEAM LEADER ask me did i ever have a STD I guess they realize where the smell was directly coming from. Everytime i walk by a co worker they talk about std's and its sign effect its crazy how people assume shit they don't know about.
IM WONDERING IF YOU HAVE HEMROIDS DO IT EFFECT YOUR VAGINA????? Help any info will be helpful!!!!


Wow! They thought you had an STD? That is embarrassing. From what I've been reading about hemorrhoids, there's nothing that says it can affect the vagina. That's definitely something you want to talk about with your Gynecologist.


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Using repHresh CAN YOU USE IT LIKE A EVERYDAY THING OR YOU HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK ON IT?
(LIKE THREE TIMES A MONTH) HELP ANY INFO WOULD BE GREAT???


Rephresh is only supposed to be used before or after sex, after your period, and to maintain vaginal freshness. It's not meant to cure or treat anything. It'll just cover up the BV temporarily, instead of actually getting rid of it. As directly stated in the frequently asked questions on the Rephresh website:

"Does RepHresh do anything for vaginal odor?
Yes. Vaginal odor is often about pH balance, not bad hygiene. If you are uncomfortable with your normal vaginal odor, the use of RepHresh will balance your pH and begin eliminating odor immediately after the first use. However, unusual vaginal odor can be a symptom of a more serious problem, and in this case you should see your doctor for a correct diagnosis." ((link))


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HEY CAN YALL CHECK THIS OUT AND TELL ME WHAT YA THINK ABOUT IT??
http://www.detoxify.com/readycleanforwomen.html


This product doesn't sound very promising because:
  1. It's geared toward a healthy urinary tract and your problem seems to be vaginal.
  2. The best way to naturally "cleanse" your body is to, eat plenty of fiber and drink plenty of water.
The herbs used in that product aren't bad, but it's not going to help you vaginal infection. I hope you find something that works for you!
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horror_movie
post Dec 26 2008, 11:56 PM
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HEY CAN YALL CHECK THIS OUT AND TELL ME WHAT YA THINK ABOUT IT??
http://www.detoxify.com/readycleanforwomen.html
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horror_movie
post Dec 26 2008, 11:26 PM
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Using repHresh CAN YOU USE IT LIKE A EVERYDAY THING OR YOU HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK ON IT?
(LIKE THREE TIMES A MONTH) HELP ANY INFO WOULD BE GREAT???
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horror_movie
post Dec 26 2008, 10:02 PM
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ahhhhhhhhhhhhh i just had to scream for a lil second. I still have BV i feel like it never gonna go away. Before i couldn't smell it but now i DO. Sometime it smell like must other time it strong fishy smell. At work A TEAM LEADER ask me did i ever have a STD I guess they realize where the smell was directly coming from. Everytime i walk by a co worker they talk about std's and its sign effect its crazy how people assume shit they don't know about.
IM WONDERING IF YOU HAVE HEMROIDS DO IT EFFECT YOUR VAGINA????? Help any info will be helpful!!!!
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post Dec 26 2008, 02:32 AM
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New here, but reading for awhile. I've had recurrent yeast infections and probably symptoms of bv since i was in highschool due to numerous courses of antibiotic treatments i was repeatedly put on. I was finally diagnosed and treated properly in October with flagyl, but i don't feel the bv was completely cleared up. I was never sexually active, and actually just had sex for the first time at 26. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience with vaginal bleeding after intercourse, it's been two or three days since and when i wake up in the morning i have quite a bit of blood in my discharge? I have read the both bv and yeast infections can cause there to be bleeding after intercourse. all of my tests back in October - apart from BV - were otherwise clear, my pap was clear, so i'm thinking it has to be the bv? i'm on flagyl again, but i'm taking a probiotic and cranberry pills to help replenish the good bacteria, and eating a more alkaline based diet. i'm thinking of trying non-dairy bio-k as well after reading the posts below. any advice would be greatly appreciated, as i'm reluctant to have sex again with my boyfriend and he doesn't know about any of this..
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Sweaty in Social Studies
post Dec 24 2008, 08:09 AM
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o jeez, so i went to the pleasure chest
today in chicago
and they told me they don't even sell
spermicide. they told me it basically eats
away your vaginal wall over time,
making you more vulnerable to stds and
the like. didn't sound good.
so wtf.
Should i just stay on the pill
and use condoms at the same time?
thats what i'm leanin toward even
though i don't really want to!


I knew spermicides were bad but I wasn't too sure how bad they were until I read about them on Planned Parenthood. Your pretty much right, they "irritate tissue and increase the risk of HIV and other sexually transmitted infections." Your best bet is to stay on the pill and use condoms.
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ladylustlove
post Dec 23 2008, 10:34 PM
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o jeez, so i went to the pleasure chest
today in chicago
and they told me they don't even sell
spermicide. they told me it basically eats
away your vaginal wall over time,
making you more vulnerable to stds and
the like. didn't sound good.
so wtf.
Should i just stay on the pill
and use condoms at the same time?
thats what i'm leanin toward even
though i don't really want to!
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post Dec 23 2008, 06:08 PM
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Though I really don't know much about spermicide (always been advised against it), I thought that the reason it was risky was that it can also act as a... lactobacilli-cide. just something to think about.

Have we collectively decided whether increased vaginal Ph is a cause of BV, a symptom, or both?

And, NettyD, HP could also be "hydrogen peroxide," around these parts. some ladies douche with an HP solution; most who have done so would probably discourage you from doing the same.

ALSO, Hewlett-Packard wink.gif
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