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auralpoison
post Feb 25 2011, 07:33 AM
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Some update on the Springfield, MO sex trafficking case of a developmentally disabled woman used as a sex slave for seven years. Link to original story below.

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If you are at all sensitive or prone to triggers, DO NOT READ. THIS IS SOME SICK FUCKING SHIT! Insane Sicko (And FRIENDS!) Commit Atrocity After Atrocity On Challenged Victim For SEVEN Years. There is a special place in hell for these sons of bitches.


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post Feb 21 2011, 07:54 AM
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Aggravated sexual assault. Y'think?! Jebus, WTF?! I've always been offended by the whole "prison rape is okay if the guy really deserves it" line of thinking that seems pervasive in our culture; jokes about being "Bubba's" cellie bitch have always rankled, but, uh, yeah, I hope this guy gets passed the fuck around like a pipe at a Ratdog show.

And more info is coming to light about Lara Logan. It seems she was stripped naked, beaten with a flagpole, & "aggressively pinched leaving parts of her body 'covered in red marks' that doctors originally thought were bite marks."


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post Feb 18 2011, 09:01 PM
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i totally agree angie. i didn't mean for that to come off as if i were white-washing the issue and blaming it all on Egyptian culture. you are totally right, it could happen anywhere with any group of men. that is what makes it so unsettling. what is it about our human nature that propels us to do something like that? why do these themes reoccur in so many different cultures?

i always think people should be culturally aware when they are working abroad. thinking that coming from a Western society will somehow exempt you from harassment is naive and foolhardy. you have to respect people's boundaries, you have to be smart, you have to protect yourself. i also think that Logan knew what she was getting into. she'd spent time in Egyptian prison and been deported just a week before the attack. she obviously had a very strong commitment to delivering this story.

i'd like to add as well, the feminism is not the same from country to country. if i were a feminist from Sudan or Saudi Arabia, i might very well be put off or offended by a western woman pushing her idea of gender equality on me. it's all too reminiscent of the white man's burden. that being said, i do hope that his tumultuous time in Egypt will allow for progression when it comes to human rights in general.


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post Feb 18 2011, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(stargazer @ Feb 12 2011, 12:08 PM) *
I wasn't sure where to put this one....

Ugh. I am not the biggest fan of Jennifer Aniston, but, I am tired of the media's assault on her choice to be single and child-free. The article in People magazine has her saying "I'm really happy! Really!" I get that People magazine tends to focus towards more conservative, traditional, mainstream people, BUT, I'm really tired of reading articles more about her personal life rather than her career (as unexciting as her choices in film are). It saddens me that in 2011 we are still have difficulties with a woman's choice to live her life differently. Also, as I think of this some more, I wonder why Cameron Diaz hasn't received as such similar treatment in the press about her choice to be single and child-free.


I feel a little silly reading this as I have that issue sitting on my coffee table now. I can't remember the last time I bought it. In my defense, it has an interview with Liam Neeson as well. tongue.gif

I've read the other comments below, as weel, I just don't think I can comment on Lara Logan. Her whole situation has taken up so much head-space this week, I've had trouble sleeping.


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post Feb 18 2011, 07:23 AM
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Hey dj, I know what you mean. I am a cultural relativist when it comes to everything but women's rights and minority rights, and I think we need a sturdier line where cultural relativism ends and basic human rights should begin. But I am also a realist, in that if journalists (or tourists, or scholars, or businesspeople) are visiting different countries, they have to know that they are not in their home country and they just can't act the same as back home, whether it's right or not. Women especially can get in trouble in such countries simply by not understanding that being American/Canadian will not protect them from discrimination and harassment that local women also experience. Sometimes, and in certain locations, you will want a male escort, and you will want to have your arms and legs covered so as not to stand out, end of story. The world should change, but it's not gonna just for you.

Even then, she was following the rules and doing everything right! She was fully covered and escorted! Doing everything right couldn't protect her. However, I have my doubts that similar things wouldn't happen in a similar situation in America or Canada, to any woman. Men in large mobs are always dangerous and more violent than men alone. And I hope this isn't blamed solely on Egyptian "culture." As with many Arab countries, things are changing and there are many different facets of political, religious, and cultural opinions and beliefs. We can only hope that the current political situation will lead to change for the better.

You're right though, the wording of the article makes it sound like women should just adapt to whatever gender roles are expected of them in foreign countries not matter what those roles might be. So not OK. That woman wasn't attacked because of what she was wearing or doing, she was attacked because she was in a place where a lot of men think it's OK to do that to a woman who isn't at home following the guidance and protection of her family/husband. So no OK.
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post Feb 16 2011, 04:44 PM
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regarding the attach on Lara Logan, i just read this article from the guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/1...n-brutal-attack

however, this part of the article kind of pissed me off:

"The attack on Lara Logan highlights the fact that there needs to be gender-specific protection and training of journalists. At the moment, female and male journalists have the same training. The truth is that female journalists need to be taught about different cultures and the ways in which men behave in those cultures. They need to know about gender-specific expectations in different countries, from what they wear to how they interact with those they met."

while i would generally agree that being aware of culture differences with respect to gender is essential for any person working abroad, i don't like the implication of this statement. the responsibility always lies with the women. we're the ones who have to be educated, we're the ones who have to protect ourselves. we're the ones who have to change our style of dress, our demeanor, or our behavior. it ultimately echos the hollow words of Schlusserl, 'too bad, so sad,' rape victim, you brought it on yourself. it sends the message that men don't have to change or learn anything. sorry, i'm not a cultural relativist in the slightest. if 83-98% of women are being verbally abused, flashed, groped, or assaulted on your streets, there is something seriously wrong with the fucking culture.


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post Feb 15 2011, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(auralpoison @ Feb 15 2011, 12:14 PM) *
What the ever-living motherfuck? Imprisoned child rapist sends birthday cards to victims from prison; authorities can do nothing because he's NOT a registered sex offender.


That sounds ass backwards.

"McConnell is not on the sex offender registry because he was convicted prior to 2007, the year Tennessee law changed giving local jurisdictions the option to register sex offenders between conviction and sentencing."

"The reason for the registry is to let the public know where these sex offenders are living, and if they're in prison, everybody knows where they are," said TBI spokesperson Kristin Helm."

It is unfortunate that the sexual abuse survivors can still be tortured by their perpetrators. I felt ill reading what this dude wrote to his victim.

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CBS's Lara Logan was beaten/sexually assaulted during Egypt protests.


I was speechless with this news.

"She was surrounded and suffered a brutal and sustained sexual assault and beating before being saved by a group of women and an estimated 20 Egyptian soldiers"

Is it ok if I say that I think it is awesome that a group of women were key in helping her?


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post Feb 15 2011, 12:14 PM
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What the ever-living motherfuck? Imprisoned child rapist sends birthday cards to victims from prison; authorities can do nothing because he's NOT a registered sex offender.

CBS's Lara Logan was beaten/sexually assaulted during Egypt protests.

I'd comment on the Jennifer/Angie thing, but right now I'm so mad I could fucking spit.


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post Feb 14 2011, 10:02 PM
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I think that there are a couple reasons she gets targeted. She dared to be in a long term relationship with THE symbol of male sexuality of the 90's and 2000's. and she lost that relationship to Angelina Jolie, who is baby-obsessed and now they have a whole litter of children. This kind of speaks to a lot of possible female fears about fertility and life choices. Maybe if she had been willing to have so many children, and not focused on her "career" as a well-paid actress on Friends, she could have kept the hottest wealthiest man of the decade?

Or maybe Brad Pitt just left her for a woman with bigger tits. But I think it's Angelina's baby-craziness, compared to Aniston's lack of family, that makes the media focus this way. Because no matter what, we're still defining them both based on the man they were/are with.
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post Feb 12 2011, 01:08 PM
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I wasn't sure where to put this one....

Ugh. I am not the biggest fan of Jennifer Aniston, but, I am tired of the media's assault on her choice to be single and child-free. The article in People magazine has her saying "I'm really happy! Really!" I get that People magazine tends to focus towards more conservative, traditional, mainstream people, BUT, I'm really tired of reading articles more about her personal life rather than her career (as unexciting as her choices in film are). It saddens me that in 2011 we are still have difficulties with a woman's choice to live her life differently. Also, as I think of this some more, I wonder why Cameron Diaz hasn't received as such similar treatment in the press about her choice to be single and child-free.


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post Jan 23 2011, 10:33 PM
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Sixth Amendment: "In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence."

Deplorable, yes, but still legal. This is why I say watch the video. The two newscasters discuss & you can hear the guy get reprimanded for his dickery.

Honestly, I think he's angling for a mistrial in the hopes that the woman will not want to take the stand to be raped for a third time & he'll get a walk.


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post Jan 23 2011, 02:08 PM
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haven't watched the video yet. I'm still trying to get my head around the idea that it's legal for alleged rapist representing himself in court and doing his own cross-examinations.
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post Jan 22 2011, 12:11 PM
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let's hope the prosecutor points out to the jury/judge how flawed the victim's testimony could be while facing her attacker. the attacker's decision to represent himself is screwing his case, hopefully.
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post Jan 21 2011, 08:30 PM
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WHAT.
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FUCK.

I had to stop around the 5-minute mark to cool down. I agree with damona. How is this possible?
Edit: I finally watched the rest of the video and read the remainder of the article. It's such a slippery slope, since we're all innocent until proven guilty and we have the right to face our accuser in a court of law. But this man failed EPICALLY to present a case, and his reward is possibly another trial? And honestly, why you'd want to represent yourself when being faced with LIFE IN PRISON is beyond me. Durrrr...

The judicial system is a cold, cold thing. I don't know if it saw something like this coming. The only thing I can think of is to have a counselor tending to her every second she is not on the stand to minimize the triggering.

"I've never impersonated a police officer" even though you've got a trial for allegedly impersonating an officer and beating the pants off someone. You're tampering with witnesses on this case, too. Yeah, enjoy jail. Inmates hate rapists.
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post Jan 21 2011, 04:51 PM
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aural, that is just sick. i don't see how the judicial system can possibly sanction such horrific behavior. i can't even imagine what that poor woman is going through. i just can't imagine. i couldn't even watch the video.


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post Jan 20 2011, 10:11 AM
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Man that posed as an undercover officer to commit sex assault serves as own counsel, victim is essentially raped all over again on stand. This guy? Is a REAL asshole. Take the time to watch the video.

Damn, but I do miss the olden days when I actually wasn't talking to myself for the most part. I know a lot of people complained that the feminist talk around here waned long before the GBE, but I keep trying. I'd suggest it elsewhere, but it seems just as sleepy as these parts.


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post Jan 12 2011, 02:10 AM
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So this isn't really outrage, I just thought it was interesting/weird how many women's logos were eerily the same.


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post Jan 1 2011, 02:11 PM
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I am posting this in most of the threads here because this is a serious issue that does need attention.
Please everyone click the link and sign the petition.
http://www.change.org/petitions/view/south...pe_a_hate-crime

"Corrective Rape" is a term used to describe when a male rapes a lesbian with the aim of 'turning' her heterosexual! This heinous crime is prolific in South Africa, especially in the "townships". Most of the victims are tortured, grievously assaulted and sometimes murdered! The South African government and justice system are failing the victims of Corrective Rape by letting the perpetrators out on ridiculously low bail, and taking literally years to bring the court-cases to a conclusion. In the meantime the victims have to live with seeing and being taunted and threatened by their rapists every day, as do those who help the victims!

In the last 10 years:
*31 lesbian women have been murdered because of their sexuality
*More than 10 lesbians a week are raped or gang raped in Cape Town alone
*150 women are raped every day in South Africa
*For every 25 men accused of rape in South Africa, 24 walk free

This is very serious and people of the world need to come together and stop this injustice from continuing to happen.
http://www.change.org/petitions/view/south...pe_a_hate-crime


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The South African government and justice system are failing the victims of rape by letting the perpetrators out on ridiculously low bail, and taking literally years to bring the court-cases to a conclusion. In the meantime the victims have to live with seeing and being taunted and threatened by their rapists every day, as do those who help the victims!

In the last 10 years:
*31 lesbian women have been murdered because of their sexuality
*More than 10 lesbians a week are raped or gang raped in Cape Town alone
*150 women are raped every day in South Africa
*For every 25 men accused of rape in South Africa, 24 walk free


Please sign the petition to help stop this injustice.

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And please repost this wherever you can to help spread the message.
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post Dec 23 2010, 12:04 PM
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Another update on the cheerleader that refused to cheer her assailant: They are taking it all the way to the US Supreme Court


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post Dec 7 2010, 06:19 AM
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Dr. Oz. Sometimes I really want to like this dude, and then he does this kind of thing.
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